How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Are there many people here who suffer from schizophrenia?

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Do girls ever miss their first love?

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

What is it like to wear a kilt?

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He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

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For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

What is the funniest joke you've been told that you still think about to this day?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Now here in this verse

Is it true that LGB should drop T?

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

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How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

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ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

What is the meanest thing your husband has said to you?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Sain (a barber)

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

CONCLUSION:

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

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ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

I am like a fish out of water,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

NOW…

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Kabir (a weaver)

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.